HC Gem: Cold As Life live from early 90'





I don't know if the documentary on Cold As Life is happening or not, but these videos are part of hardcore history: Cold As Life with the original singer Rawn live at their home turf.

OLC live set from East Coast Tsunami



It's funny how one of the most hated bands in hardcore turns out to be one of the nicest and down to earth dudes. I saw them play last year's Ninja Fest and their performance was short but slick. They got nothing but love from the crowd and love they did give back. I don't know how active the band gonna be in terms of gigs in the future, but if you have a chance to see them play live don't miss it. Props to Shed My Skin for the above vid.

Silence Over Snitching Forever


Now Crowd Deterrent tracks are up on band's bandcamp. The sound quality is rough as fuck, but if you can get pass that you'll get two really tight tunes. Predator Or Pray is CR we all love, but the real deal is Sacred Order Sacred Flesh which brings bombed out grooves and a harsh dose of reality. Hardcore gang shouts collide with tight guitar work, and the vocals are menacing as always. I admit I wasn't into these tracks at first but more I listened to it more I felt it. Can't wait for whole Silence Over Snitching Forever Ep to drop.




Race Riot streams songs from the upcoming split

Race Riot streams new songs from the upcoming split with Crowd Deterrent. Street Education 101 and Smash Nazis are up at band's Stereokiller profile and they kick ass!

New 'Last Man Standing' 7" by Watch Your Back

Watch Your Back (Finland) has just released new nine-song 7" vinyl called Last Man Standing. Fast and reckless hardcore is what to expect. Truth is, you can't go wrong with a band that names Negative Approach and One Life Crew as their top influences. Order it through band's Bandcamp or just drop them e-mail to settle the deal.

Last Dayz - Fuck Off


First official video from the Polish band. Go to Ratel Records website and order their 7"!

Cheech to drop 4th full length album

Cheech, which is one of the most criminally underrated bands out of Boston, has provided news on their new album which is currently in the works: "This summer we will be finishing up our 4th full length album. Title and label will be announced in the coming weeks. Be sure, it will be a killer record, one much BIGGER than any previous Cheech release. Because of this, we are starting the campaign now and trying to reach as many people as we can."

All Cheech releases are available for free streaming and/or download at band's Bandcamp website including DEMO versions of a few new songs:

Go For It! Interview

Go For It! has been featured on this website couple of times already but the news is they’re working hard to have their new album released so we thought it’s worth to inquire a little bit about it. It is called Misantrophy and judging by the songs that have been released so far, it shows more melodic and catchy side of the band. It’s still powerful, but when you compare it with their first output you might be surprised. Here’s something about the new music and the message the band want to get across through it!
Go For It! has been featured on this website couple of times already but the news is they’re working hard to have their new album released so we thought it’s worth to inquire a little bit about it. It is called Misantrophy and judging by the songs that have been released so far, it shows more melodic and catchy side of the band. It’s still powerful, but when you compare it with their first output you might be surprised. Here’s something about the new music and the message the band want to get across through it!
What´s new with the band? Please give us the recent history?
GO FOR IT! started up in late 2008 in the north-west of Germany. We´re a four-piece Hardcore-Punk-band playing a style anywhere between Oldschool & Punk Rock.
It is just the way we used to hear when we were kids until nowadays. GO FOR IT! are members Franky who is doing the vocals, Dom at the drums, Martin plays bass and my name is Haris. I play guitar and sing at several parts, too. Martin replaced our friend Sven. He was leaving out of personal reasons but he is still in our hearts and yes, he is back with making again. Martin joined GO FOR IT! in a time when we were out of the studio and the recordings for “Misanthropy” were finished. But the rehearsals with him showed us that “Misanthropy” could reach another level. So we decided to book another studio to record all bass lines again. You will hear the result when you will write the review of “Misanthropy”

Tell me about the new album “Misanthropy”. What can kids expect when they´re listening to it?
“The passion, the heart afire entire” …these are the first few words which opens up the album within a sing-along and I guess there isn´t really more to say about it hahaha. No just kidding, but I guess the first impression when I am thinking about “Misanthropy” is that this record is different in many ways when it comes to comparison to our first release “Reading between the front lines”. We invested much more time during the songwriting and pre-productions and we thrown away a lot of lyrics until we reached every single track like we thought it should out perfectly.
Finally the kids can expect 14 tracks and some really interesting features.

Tell us something about the guest appearances on the album!
Oh that´s pretty easy to answer that question because every single voice which is captured on “Misanthropy” is a friend of us. We know Cindy van der Heijden (All For Nothing) since ever I guess hahaha. And so we asked her if she wanted to sing some vocals in “Fuck Y´All”. The same with Bud who is better known from his band Settle The Score, who are sadly not active anymore. There are much more buddies on “Misanthropy” so you better check the booklet and figure out who I am talking about.
The whole “Misanthropy”-album was made by friends of us…the recordings, the mastering, the artwork and design, simply everything. That makes us feel pretty familiar to this upcoming output.

Lyrically, what are some of the stories you are telling on this album?
“Misanthropy” – dealing with social values as a flat creation of humanity. We are all creatures that act anti-social and selfish in so many ways. Franky only writes about personal stories that he witnessed cause this is the best way to make it authentic.

Which one is the most important to you?
Puh, hard to say but I guess “Humanimal” is the key to the whole album.
But that doesn´t make this song more important in contrast to the others.

You´ve been for some time already. How has your outlook on Hardcore scene changed over the years?
Damned, we´re getting older and there is nothing we can do about it. But in our hearts we´re still 14 years old and we still love what we do. But now the time has come that we give our scene(s) something back. Not something material or anything like that but we are totally caught into “messages” so maybe YOU know what we´re talking about.

Do you even get the impression that kids nowadays are forgetting their roots and the classic Hardcore sound?
Some kids are just jumping from one trend to another, play what their friends wanna hear and forget the Punk roots, which build up the Hardcore scene. Definitely yes, and I am sad about that. Today everything is about piercings, flat caps and who has more tattoos. Oh man, that really has nothing in common with Hardcore like it once was meant.

If you could change one thing in the Hardcore scene, what would it be?
One upon a time Hardcore was about being individual and diverse and checking out about the “Why?” behind a fact anyone is telling you. Today it is kinda different. The kids don´t care about respect or unity and this is what we love in Hardcore. No matter who you are, no matter where you´re from, you´re always welcome…and even more! Hardcore is a movement about being informed and to be critical.

What kind of stuff are you guys listening to now?
We´re a tree with many roots. As long as it is good music, we listen to every genre from Metal, Hip Hop, Punk, Ska, Hardcore (of course), and much more just like Johnny Cash, Peter Gabriel and City & Colour. If it comes from the heart and is authentic then I guess it doesn´t matter which style it is.

Record collecting – some kids say it´s okay, some say it´s lame to buy five different colour version of the same album. What are your thoughts on the subjects?
C´mon, you are talking about dedication and this is everything but really not lame at all. The last record I have bought was only 2 days ago. Definitely still a medium up to date in the Hardcore scene. The Rotting Out album is killer!

What are your thoughts on the current situation in Europe? I´m talking about the crises, the debt, the unemployment…
“Promote The Protest” is the connecting track to this theme and we were always treated like insects beyond the politics. We´re living in a democracy but we, the people are not involved into decisions concerning all of us. The thing is “Keep your eyes open and don´t believe what the media try to suggest you!” The big ones even earn more money than in the early days.

What are some other bands from your area, you´re down with?
Oh when I think about bands in our area then first of all our brothers Strength. Hard working, always on the road, brilliant people. Then of course, you have to check out Lavatch (these guys know how to love!) and All For Revenge from Berlin and all other bands who have something to say. Oh Berlin is not our area but hey, check them out!

Plans for spring, summer and rest of 2012? Anything else you´d like to add?
Step one: Find a passionate label who will release “Misanthropy” as soon as possible.
Step two: Promote the protest by playing shows and weekend-tours all over where it is possible and where the kids wanna see us to play.
Step three: Write new stuff. Right now we´ve already finished so far, so be aware and expect the worst.
Step four: Meet up passionate people who share the same love like we do…music from the bottom of the heart!


2006-2012: Word For Word called it quits

One of the coolest bands around has unfortunately came to an end. Official statement from Arrest Records website: "Word For Word is coming to an end. We’ll be playing two, possibly three last shows. Our last Manchester show will be at Mad Bob’s Saloon Saturday June 9th and our very last show will be at Anchors Up Saturday August 25th. I once thought that it would be better to not have a last show and just pick up and play whenever, but when you only play shows in the same area and don’t write new material it’s just not the same. So instead of letting the band go stagnant we’d rather go out on a high note. Word For Word is very important to me. I’ve gotten to meet some amazing people through the band. We were lucky enough to get to go on 3 10 day tours (vacations) all of which resulted in me having a nervous breakdown. I’d like to thank Alex from Yellow Stitches/Ignorance for basically singlehandedly making the first two possible and coming along for the last; Josh Hynes for always hooking us up with great shows and filling in for us; Angry Al for doing ALL of our album artwork; Lumpy for putting together all our layouts and other design work. Thanks for everything to anybody who ever cared about this band, booked us and put out our music. Nothing has been more flattering then seeing people with Word For Word tattoos and homemade merch. Everyone of us has a side project now. Brandon and Nate both play in Yellow Stitches and will soon be dropping their debut full length “Good Times,Violent Crimes LP” on Brass City Boss Sounds. Pete and I have started a straight edge hardcore band called Freedom 35 that should be ready to start playing shows this summer."

Lose The Life posts new song. New album on Ugly & Proud Records!

Lose The Life posted new song, Authority Stomper, on their bandcamp account. The song has a strong political message to it and deals with police but from the anti-capitalist perspective. Here's what band got to say about it: "Ah, there's nothing like a song about hating the police! Many punks and hardcore kids can relate to lyrics about getting into trouble with the law. But we would like to raise the criticism to another level. The police as an institution are only made necessary in a society divided between those who have and those who don’t. The law is written to ensure the power of the already wealthy. Thus, the police are nothing but the henchmen of our real enemy: capitalist society." The song is taken from the upcoming album, 'The End of Conformity', which is due to be released on Ugly And Proud Records.

New Blood: 9th Step Interview

9th Step is a relatively young band out of Salem, Oregon that brings straight in your face music which draws as much from the roughest classic hardcore sound as from the meanest punk rock. So you can hear in their music familiar elements from bands like Agnostic Front or Negative Approach and even Discharge or Last Resort. Even if they are not at the level of any of those bands yet, they still go hard tho. I hope every one of you has checked their demo which we recently uploaded, Tear Me Down track is a banger plus you get ACAB cover as a bonus.
9th Step is a relatively young band out of Salem, Oregon that brings straight in your face music which draws as much from the roughest classic hardcore sound as from the meanest punk rock. So you can hear in their music familiar elements from bands like Agnostic Front or Negative Approach and even Discharge or Last Resort. Even if they are not at the level of any of those bands yet, they still go hard tho. I hope every one of you has checked their demo which we recently uploaded, Tear Me Down track is a banger plus you get ACAB cover as a bonus.
First off, tell us something about 9th Step. Who is who in the band and how long you've been around?
The idea of the band and where we all met was at a local (Salem, Oregon) all ages venue called the Wasteland. It was owned by a guy named Jared and a few others it wasn't like most venues it became like everyone's home and everyone became friends. Unfortunately, it had to close due to financial reasons.
9th Step is like a mix of a few of the bands played there. I, Tony Morse, came up with the name 9th Step because the 9th step of any "12 step program" is to make amends. I felt this would fit because everyone in the band past and present has gone threw some shit, done some fucked up things, and all you can do at the end of the day is try to make amends. I'd like to clarify that we are not an straight edge band. The line up is Tony Morse (vox) Austin Zepeda (drums) Andy Dornon (bass) Steve Smith (guitar.) I'd also like to thank past members who got the ball rolling Hyatt, "Spoon" and Sam. We have only been a full line up and playing shows since December 2011.

9th Step is heavily influenced by some of my favorite bands like Blood For Blood, Madball or Discipline. What draws you to that type of sound in particular?
Blood For Blood is personally my favorite hardcore band it embodies everything I love about music. The dual vocals work with each other perfectly, their hatred and contempt for society, and the music flows so well while staying so raw. That's where I draw a lot of my influence. But the theme behind all those bands is their raw old school, to the point, and draw a lot of influence from "oi" music, which I like hence; ACAB the 4 Skins cover. We basically take influence from all referent types of heavier music.

What about the lyrical content? Where do you go for inspiration?
Mostly feelings of struggle and oppression, battling with my own morals and with who I want to be. As well as many other social subjects but that's the basis of it.

Playing in a hardcore band can be rough, what gets you going to run 9th Step and how do you manage to balance personal responsibilities with the band?
Music is the only thing that I've really gave a fuck about, so I stay pretty motivated with managing responsibilities. We are not so good at this, Double A, Austin, and I are all jobless not counting random hustles of course. Steve is really good at this, he has a job, a girlfriend, and 3 bands I don't know how he pulls it off but I admire him for it.

What aspect or which band embodies the best of what's happening in hardcore currently?
There is a lot going on, but I would have to say Terror. They are always on tour, always putting out good albums one after the other, and keeping it raw and real! No fluff no gimmicks all while staying humble they deserve every drop of recognition they're getting.

And what embodies the worst aspect of hardcore scene of today?
Unnecessary violence! None of us are pacifists, but when it gets venues shut down and cops called its not cool, just take it down the street!

What are some other bands from Oregon you’re down with?
Get Wise (Hardcore/Punk) and Tides (Hardcore) are very promising new bands from Eugene! Proven and The Athiarchists, are also awesome bands. We played a few shows with a band called Buck Williams from Portland. Very good stuff. They deserve a lot more recognition! We also got all our Salem bands most of which not hardcore but homies all the same; Fuzzy Thunder (Psychedelic Stoner Rock) Skatter Bomb (Ska Punk,) Neversleep (Metal,) Tetramorphic (Metal,) ect.

This one is going to be hard, but what are the most defining albums in hardcore history in your opinion?
I don't know about defining but I'll put some albums that define hardcore for me; Agnostic Front: Another Voice, Blood For Blood: Revenge on Society, and Vietnom Death: Is the Outcome. There is a compilation album called The Worldwide Tribute To The Real Oi Volume 1 and 2. There are amazing Agnostic Front, Cocksparrer, Madball, Last Resort, Sick of It All, and Blood For Blood albums, the list just goes on!

Can you remember what the first hardcore record you bought was?
The first hardcore vinyl I bought was agnostic front Live at CBGB's.

Thanks for your time doing this! Anything you would like to add before we finish?
Hey thank you man your website is a real public service for bands, and your judgment and reviews are spot on. Everyone keep an eye out for our full length demo coming in the next few months. For the readers check out our Facebook. The demo is free in the download section of this sight. Thanks and as always, Fuck the police.

Blood For Blood working on a new album

The band has announced the news on its Facebook profilesaying: "Blood For Blood just started working on some preproduction recordings for the new album at Mad Oak Studios in Boston today. The mixing board behind them is the same board that Black Sabbath recorded the "Sabotage" album on!"

Crowd Deterrent - Certain Death


Music video for "Certain Death" by Crowd Deterrent. Produced by Downpour Creative and Crowd Deterrent. Special effects by Dead Art Inc.

Fed Up! Video contest!

From inbox: Fed Up! video contest. Make a youtube video using any songs from Fed Up! - SHEER POETRY Album. You can use FED UP! Pictures, live footage, your own video, even is it's just 1 pic and the song it's up to you. If you don't have the Fed Up! - Sheer Poetry CD/LP then go buy it. Available on CD Baby, amazon, revhq, iTunes, http://www.unitedriotrecords.bigcartel.com/ you can find it everywhere.
The contest runs from 2/16/2012 to 9/16/2012. Contest is available to everyone in any country except for current members of Fed Up!
You must subscribe to http://www.youtube.com/user/UNITEDRIOTRECORDS put up your video on youtube & email FEDUPNYC@AOL.COM before the deadline to qualify. Grand Prize winner gets the super FED UP! package and $69 bucks in cold hard cash. There will also be prizes for 2nd and 3rd runners up. Have fun and fuck your life.

New Blood: Tirade

London has for long been a breeding ground to some of the hardest bands in Europe. Not only big city life creates a need for creative release of everyday anger, stress and frustration, but also the presence of notorious bands like Knuckledust, Ninebar or TRC creates a good environment for this type of sound. Tirade is one of the newest addition to London scene having been around since 2010, although the guys involved in the project have been active in number of household bands like Injury Time and Ninebar. Here’s what Tom, who does vocals for the Tirade, had to say in an interview we did recently.
London has for long been a breeding ground to some of the hardest bands in Europe. Not only big city life creates a need for creative release of everyday anger, stress and frustration, but also the presence of notorious bands like Knuckledust, Ninebar or TRC creates a good environment for this type of sound. Tirade is one of the newest addition to London scene having been around since 2010, although the guys involved in the project have been active in number of household bands like Injury Time and Ninebar. Here’s what Tom, who does vocals for the Tirade, had to say in an interview we did recently.
Listening to the demo it sounds like the band was born out of a fascination with the raw and heavy side of hardcore music – can you tell me about that?
Well we originally came together with the aim of playing heavy mid tempo hardcore. Over the course of writing our first 6 songs our sound has strayed a bit from that, but as you can tell we definitely are influenced by some of the older dark and heavy bands eg Sheer Terror, Breakdown, Merauder.
This is some of the stuff that really got me deep into HC back in the 90s. Of course as you can probably hear we have some elements of more typical straight up HC and maybe a couple of beatdown type moments too, that definitely describes what we are into as a band.

How would you describe the lyrical content of the first demo? Is there any advice or knowledge that you would like to get across to the listeners?
The first demo lyrics are all quite personal, dealing with topics such as overcoming everyday struggles, people who are all talk and image but no action, growing older and more disillusioned, fighting against whatever holds you back. So not really looking to put across too much of a specific message with my lyrics, they are a vent for the experiences, frustrations and realities of everyday life and about getting beyond them, something I think everyone can relate to.

London hardcore has always been a breeding ground for heavy, tight sounding bands. What do you attribute it to?
Don't know really, some pretty diverse bands have come from London and continue to emerge, but I guess acts like 50 Caliber, BDF and in more recent years Prowler have been instrumental in exposing the metallic beatdown style that our city became notorious for. Newer bands like Crippler seem to be keeping this sound going for the next generation. You are definitely right in thinking there is an affection for the heavier end of things here!

The other thing about London based bands is the longevity of the bands, something not that common among other scenes. You have Knuckledust as a good example. It deserves respect, especially taking under consideration the high cost of living in London. What’s your opinion about it?
We have a core of older heads in London, of which I am proud to say I am one, who have been going to shows and playing in at least one if not more bands for well over a decade with no sign of quitting, that's what I would attribute the longevity of many London bands to.
Knuckledust are definitely an inspiration and I am proud to say Tirade's first show was their 15 year anniversary show, an amazing night for many reasons. I guess their consistency and dedication as well as that of other bands helps to keep the spotlight on London.



Can you recall any challenges you faced while balancing the personal life with being part of hardcore?
Its an ongoing challenge, balancing life, work and relationships with rehearsing, recording and playing shows, obviously I spend a lot of time looking at schedules so that we can book practices as we are still writing new material. We are all older guys who still devote lots of time to HC so we have outside pressures like work or looking for work, and our guitarist Si will be getting married in a few months.
So everything we do has an element of challenge in it, we are all fully committed to Tirade though so all these outside pressures are just something we have to deal with in order to further ourselves as a band, we will never let them get in the way of something we love.

Have you ever felt like giving up? What kept you going?
Not sure if you mean giving up on life in general or HC? I guess the two are linked very closely in my case, hardcore really has always kept me going and given me something to look forward to. I love to play, write or just go to shows and this has stayed constant with age, continuing to inspire me along with the obvious things like family and friends.

Do you remember what stirred the desire to be in hardcore band in you?
That is going back a while, I guess it was the mid 90s when everyone in London was quite new to hardcore, first getting to know each other, realising what was possible and making connections. The whole 'support your scene, Do it yourself' aspect of hardcore was fresh in everyones minds and it was a very different time to now.
As for nowadays and what started Tirade, we are all good friends and longtime hardcore fans who spend plenty of time together anyway, our bassist Paulie, drummer Ammo and guitarist Si had been jamming together in one way or another for a while, I was looking for something else to get involved in having finished the new Nine Bar album, and we first got together and started writing in November 2010.

Do you still follow any new bands in the scene? What are some UK bands we should check out?
Yes of course, both on a UK level and also worldwide I am always keen to hear new bands.
In the UK I would urge people to check out all the Rucktion Records acts such as my other band Nine Bar, also Kartel and Diction who both have new releases in the works, Chains of Hate who have a split CD with Surge of Fury about to drop, as well as True valliance, Deathskulls, Prowler, Injury Time.
Cold hard truth and Pay the Price are some other bands from around the UK I would definitely recommend.

What are the plans for the band? What should we except from Tirade in the future?
We plan to keep on writing, we already have a couple of new songs well on the way to being ready so we are at the early stages of thinking about a followup release. Also hoping to play as many shows as possible in 2012. I'm also gonna be designing shirts in the next few weeks.

One Life Crew and Know The Score split in works!

One Life Crew and Know The Score will both be entering the studio early this summer to record a couple tracks for an upcoming split 7″. This will be the first new recorded material in almost 13 years for OLC. Both bands will be playing a couple of record release shows in support of the 7″. The split is due to be released on Double Or Nothing Records. More details coming soon!

Sheer Terror to release new 7" in July!

This is probably the biggest news of this year! The Sheer Terror 7", featuring two new songs titled "Heresy on the Monkey Bar" and "Blue Shadows Will Fall", along with a cover song scheduled to be out in July. This will be released by almighty Reaper Records!

Crowd Deterrent - Full Set

New album by Truth In Needles out now on Pride Over Pain Records

Truth In Needles’ new cd "Turning Gray Black" out now from Pride Over Pain Records. Recorded at Method Of Groove studio in Brooklyn NY, produced by Joey-Z(Life Of Agony). The follow up to their first release "Hardcore Liberation Front" which gained worldwide acclaim for its raw and aggressive songs, produced by Don Fury. Both can be found on itunes and digital stores. Check it now with first music video "All Bets Are Off!"

Look My Way

Look My Way was born in the summer of 2010 with the goal to create heavy, blood pumping hardcore with origins based in classic east coast hc bands such as Agnostic Front, Judge, Madball, MerauderR and newer bands such as Death Threat, 100 Demons, old Hatebreed. Each member of Look My Way comes from different kind of background and bands (Another Victory, Kill This Dream, Cheap Thrills etc.), but everyone shares the passion for grassroots hc, it was just a matter of time until they found each other to do this band..
For those unfamiliar with the band - what do you want people to know about the band and your music or message?

LMW is a hardcore band,no gimmicks,no bullshit,no silly pants,no metrosexual hairdos!we play the music we love and not what may be the next big thing!

How did you all meet and how long have you all been a band?

The actual lineup exists since september 2010! i knew tommy from local shows.tommy and low met rene in summer 2010 and started rehearsing.they were looking for a singer,i was kinda frustrated with my project at that time and gave it a chance. micha joined the band on 2nd guitat in september,we recorded the demo in november!yo

What's the toughest struggle for the band like yours? What's the biggest wall to get over?

We are still a very young band so still we got hard times,struggle and strife ahead of us haha. we got some good shows in the future and so on. ask me again in a year or something haha

For those who have not heard anything from you how would you describe band's playing sound?

Heavy metallic NYHC with lots of old school influences..sounds a bit odd but yeah,i would describe it that way.people brand us as "tough guy" hardcore,well..it could be worse haha

What have you released so far?

A demo on save my soul records.the tapes are sold out but we repressed a couple cds to sell at shows.you can download the demo!check the link on that webzine

Who are your strongest musical influences and why?

We all listen to different kind of stuff but mostly east coast hardcore bands are our biggest influence, madball, sick of it all, merauder, judge,agnostic front,some metal stuff, punkrock, oi!, we are pretty open minded. we are combining all these sounds with a modern approach

And where do you draw your inspiration from when it comes to the lyrics?

- most of my lyrics have a rather negative vibe cause i see my band as an outlet for my personal issues i have to deal with!real life issues!that`s what it`s all about.fuck the world before it fucks you!

Tell me about band's performance element – what should kids expect from your live show?

Kids loosing their shit,punching people in the face,throwing chairs and tables at people,retards moshing with sleeveless soul crew shirts,timberland stomp,ignorant mosh in general and so on..hook us up!

Tell us what you have coming up that we can check for. Plans, gigs and releases planned for the upcoming months?

A couple of weekends to play,playing some fests,death threat weekender,some more.we will record a lp in summer,maybe a split release with another band. we wanna stay busy

Any closing thoughts?

Thanks for the interview and supporting the band! we really appreciaite it! look out for save my soul records putting out the sweetest records in 2011!and remember: bands who pay to play suck and are NOT hardcore!DISEMPOWER!!